tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6077681147259347412.post6019140569324599806..comments2024-03-27T21:57:58.225-04:00Comments on Hudson Valley Sketches - : Lightfastness Test Results on Noodlers Eternal Inks, pigmented and iron gall inks, and moreJamie Williams Grossmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10769196454699941599noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6077681147259347412.post-59532814352743445602019-03-11T17:59:47.644-04:002019-03-11T17:59:47.644-04:00This might seem odd coming out of the blue in 2019...This might seem odd coming out of the blue in 2019, but thank you for these tests. Someone mentioned them in an Amazon review and you saved me from the future purchase of a non-archival ink.<br /><br />FYI, with Google+ going away in April, you will likely have to figure out what to do about comments on your blog. :(Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17043377867822401826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6077681147259347412.post-31879303560748738052018-05-01T14:00:49.149-04:002018-05-01T14:00:49.149-04:00While lightfastness is an issue for artists (most ...While lightfastness is an issue for artists (most art media have ratings for this), ordinary ink is typically purchased for its appearance or color. If one plans to record important information for posterity, lightfastness AND the quality of the paper (or whatever is written upon) is an important consideration. The ancient Hebrews actually wrote on metal plates for the preservation of the most important information. A bit beyond our budget! <br /><br />As far as science goes, a simple test is often sufficient for the inquirer. It would be a plus if companies who sell inks would include the affects of light in their product data. Our sun is giving off much stronger UV and other radiation now, leading to premature failure of many materials. Frances McKenziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03979288722756679841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6077681147259347412.post-41862255782212734372018-05-01T12:37:28.324-04:002018-05-01T12:37:28.324-04:00This is great. You've really opened my eyes, w...This is great. You've really opened my eyes, which are important because I use the inks for drawings that hopefully will end up on walls some day. I just assumed that the fountain pen inks would be as light resistant as my India inks. Most ink reviewers out there doesn't even mention light resistance, instead they pour bleach and stuff on it... I guess because it's easier to test. I'm quite shocked that not even Diamine Registrars had better light resistance.<br />The sad thing about this is that Noodlers and Platinum, which seems the best options, is quite hard to come by where I live in Europe (I'm from Sweden). I can order them from UK (or US I guess), but will have to wait for next paycheck ;) I've found a india ink that should work for me meantime though, Pelikan Fount India. There is a also one shop in my country which carry Sailor Nano inks.<br />You have also inspired me too conduct the same test on inks that I have. I will publish the result some day. I wonder if one could stress the test with some kind of artificial UV-light...<br />Even if your test is not scientific it is incredible helpful for artists!Mattias Wirfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14894052603148268466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6077681147259347412.post-21573763585890182242017-03-02T15:47:47.464-05:002017-03-02T15:47:47.464-05:00I have come back to this page over and over for th...I have come back to this page over and over for the past year as I evaluate inks. I really appreciate the work. One question -- did you look at the blue ghost under a black light after the test? If so, how did it fare?Eldritchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03602943759803653799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6077681147259347412.post-63643227990680338112015-12-23T00:56:36.409-05:002015-12-23T00:56:36.409-05:00I just found your UV test today after going throug...I just found your UV test today after going through some old Goulet Pen email (I'm try to catch up). You might want to look at my own UV test which I posted at the Fountain Pen Network. These were all 'fountain pen' inks, not artist inks. Here in the SW USA, UV is high and sometimes we even get ozone. Most of the tests out there are for waterproofness so nice to see I'm not the only one worried about fading. <br />http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/251897-noodlers-ink-southwestern-usa-uv-test/Frances McKenziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03979288722756679841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6077681147259347412.post-63074878349062717742015-08-10T00:27:04.962-04:002015-08-10T00:27:04.962-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Tamarindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920357855016976985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6077681147259347412.post-7439143382276798612013-08-20T10:59:50.759-04:002013-08-20T10:59:50.759-04:00While your tests were not rigorous per ASTM standa...While your tests were not rigorous per ASTM standards, they are far more than many of the ink manufacturers attempt to do. Your tests were both informative and helpful. We would all love to see the results of more detailed testing. But in the absence of such testing, your effort is both appreciated and informative. Thank you!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15842804534300398264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6077681147259347412.post-15053254005775656752013-06-02T16:52:52.634-04:002013-06-02T16:52:52.634-04:00Christian, I'm glad you found this helpful. Ho...Christian, I'm glad you found this helpful. However, I think I need to state that I have not proven lightfastness for any of these inks. That would require testing way beyond my capabilities. All I can do is say what happened in my own window during this relatively short period of time. By archival lightfastness standards, this is not very much time, nor a very scientific approach. It was done for my own purposes, more to see which inks would fade more quickly rather than to prove the others would not fade at all, ever. Please consider these results to be relative to one another, and not an indicator of archival lightfastness by artist or ASTM standards. Those would be much more rigorous tests over a longer period of time, and with superior controls than I have at my disposal.Jamie Williams Grossmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10769196454699941599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6077681147259347412.post-22845083953313639892013-06-01T21:53:43.404-04:002013-06-01T21:53:43.404-04:00Simple and thorough, excellent! And I'm so gla...Simple and thorough, excellent! And I'm so glad I chose Platinum Carbon Black years ago... waterproof on watercolor paper (unlike Noodler's inks), and now this proven lightfastness. Thanks+++Christian R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13349005333099912342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6077681147259347412.post-7746495658892667542013-04-22T15:21:18.327-04:002013-04-22T15:21:18.327-04:00Very helpful, Jamie. Thank you!Very helpful, Jamie. Thank you!Melissa Fischerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15617837463419485494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6077681147259347412.post-18345326791021095872013-04-08T00:14:40.927-04:002013-04-08T00:14:40.927-04:00This is good info to be aware of. Thank you.This is good info to be aware of. Thank you.Grave Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11526176429982893621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6077681147259347412.post-37971992490280152322012-12-26T06:57:44.621-05:002012-12-26T06:57:44.621-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.raazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18277599149733475870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6077681147259347412.post-64866787085594650872012-12-11T02:21:37.340-05:002012-12-11T02:21:37.340-05:00Thank you! Thank you! You are a kindred spirit. ...Thank you! Thank you! You are a kindred spirit. Almost every ink or throw away pen I use I test on a sunny windowsill. Here the work is all done for me.Elva Paulsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642197019054496596noreply@blogger.com